Co.: 1998.The Evolution of Military Automatic Pistols, by Gordon Bruce. Early production features included the Astra U/C logo on the slide, a two-line slide address and PIST PATR 08 on the barrel hood. Astra 300 9 item; Astra 400 14 item; Astra 600 25 item; Ballester Molina 13 item; Browning 1922 10 item; Bushmaster ACR 5 item; Carcano 10 item; CZ27 12 item; CZ50/70 18 item; The tubular design certainly stands out among the squarish 1911s, Hi-Powers, and revolvers of the day. Production standards were not comprimised. In short order, Astra introduced the M600, a single-action, internal hammer blowback pistol that was a scaled-down M400 (1921) fitted with an M300/M400 (1921) Navy magazine release. A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have". Sales of the Model 4000 were never robust in the U.S., and At some point, presumably before the Gun Control Act of 1968 due to lack of an import mark, the unique Astra 600/43 found its way to the U.S. 2019 RJK Ventures LLC. However, sales were good in the rest of the world, and the gun was particularly popular in the Middle East. The "O" is the year code. The 12 month average price is $707.08 used. Early grips were made of horn, hard rubber, or mottled brown plastic, with the Astra logo on the upper half. The Model 600 was extremely well made and well finished, as were all The condition doesn't suggest much to me. Call me a fudd, but these days an old surplus pistol like the Astra appeals to me a lot more than the latest 5.56 caliber AR 15 or polymer frame striker-fired pistol. The magazine has the serial number of the pistol etched on the bottom of the floor plate. Impressed with the quality of Astras arms, Germany soon made substantial purchases. models. Small, simple, and not the fastest sights for combat shooting. The barrel, barrel bushing, safety, slide lock, and trigger were left in the white and given a high polish. Posts: 3420 | Location: Western PA | Registered: July 20, 2010: IP The Seller says it is from a Nazi Astra, but that is not certain. The grip angle isnt an issue. Spotted this at the gun auction from hell and decided to take a chance on it due to the condition. But under wartime exigencies the Germans often had to use their 9mm Parabellum ammunition in the Model 400s. The shorter cartridges didnt seat properly in the long chamber of the Model 400 and sometimes failed to feed or eject. I picked up this very nice condition Astra model 600/43 West German police contract pistol & holster rig last weekend. Stanley Tools Pistol Grip Saw Sets No 42SS No 43, Ancient Edged Weapons, Pistols, Guns, Cross-Bow, Etc. In the late '70s and '80s, the company faced a decline in sales that led to the 1998 merger of Astra y Unceta Cia and the bankrupt Star Bonifacio Echeverria S.A. Ben Voss FN Product Manager talks about the new FN SCAR 15P ultra-compact rifle-caliber pistol at SHOT Show 2023. It remained the Copyright 2008 & 2009 by Ed Buffaloe. ASTRA 600/43 600 HOLSTER 9x19 mm - Genuine militaria Contact Us About me Facebook Menu CUT RECEIVER PARTS MAGAZINES PISTOLS ASTRA BAYARD BERETTA BERGMANN LIGNOSE BERNARDELLI BROWNING CARPATI CEBRA RUBY CLEMENT COLT CZ DELU DREYSE DWM ERMA ESPERANCA UNCETA FEINWERKBAU FEMARU FROMMER FEG GALESI GLISENTI HAENEL HAMMERLI HECKLER KOCH HI STANDARD 300s were stamped with UNCETA Y COMPAIA S.A. on the frame under the left grip, along with the last three digits of the serial number. Catalogue of an important collection of rare old Pistols and Guns, Indian relics, Etc. ultimately sold commercially. It has no additional markings so no concrete proof of where it went and how it got here but odds are it was sold to Germany for their police after the . They work, at least for shooting at a square range. It has no military or police markings, no foreign proofs and not even importer's markings. From appearances and the lack of markings it was a civilian-sale gun. Firac, Sterling, Colorado: E-mail Webmaster Visit our website for new treasures daily. Excellent bore. Please note, comments must be approved before they are published. It feels like it was created for a single-handed, bladed shooting stance, which was in style at the time. hole down to the bottom of the grip--the single grip screw is obviously set too close to the edge of the grip--this may be the one design flaw on the Model 300. Check out our holster collection with over 50 styles, models, colors and markings to choose from! Markings: The left side of the slide behind the serrations is marked with a "P" in a bomb, a Spanish proof mark, indicating the gun passed inspection. MOD. There is no way to know if it saw Wehrmacht service before the end of the war. Markings vary somewhat over the production range, but most have some variation of ASTRA Mod. Excellent action. Ruger's multi-role small frame autoloading rifle - Sear - combines AR-10 power with AR-15 Portability. Astra designed military holsters. I have one myself. The top left rear of the slide is marked ""ASTRA . Subsequently, nearly half This pistol was delivered on July 16 of 1944 in the last batch of Nazi ordered Astra 600s, and it retains about 95-97% of the original blue with minor edge wear, and a couple small areas of finish loss on the trigger guard and front strap. Go . Wish now that I hadn't sold itif memory serves me correctly, the small parts were numbered, I suppose by a police armory. ASTRA MODEL 600/43 GI#: 102287873 Guns Listing ID: 820844Manufacturer: AstraModel: 600/43Condition: Very goodCaliber: 9mm ParaAction: Semi-AutoBarrel Length: 5.3\"Capacity: 8-rdInventory: Includes holster and (2) 8-rd mags.-This .Click for more info Seller: Guns Dot Com Area Code: 866 $714.99 NEW THIS WEEK! I'm glad the plastic ones were broken.I don't feel bad about changing them! So, if the magazine is numbered, view the gun with suspicion. The .380 version of the Astra Model 300 holds 6 rounds, while Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. These Astras were Eagle over WaAD20 proofed in France by the Germans, and made ready for use by the Wehrmacht. In addition, they are extremely reliable. With the Astra 600, the barrel was trimmed to 5.3-inches and obviously chambered to the round of choice. Its exciting, interesting, and ultimately a more creative means to accomplish a reliable fighting pistol. Serial 31XXX (frame) was manufactured for the German contract but never left Spain during the war. Reply . They also shipped larged quantities of 9mm Largo ammunition with the pistols. Its in beautiful condition overall. Designed by Unceta y Cia, it was a shortened version of the Astra 400 manufactured to fire 919mm Parabellum, which was the standard pistol ammunition for Germany at the time. . Petersen Pub. DG. the .32 version holds 7. This group of pistols with serial numbers greater than 10,500, is sometime referred to by collectors as the Second Contract.. the Germans asked Astra to rechamber the pistol to handle the 9mm Parabellum cartridge. In 1926 Juan Esperanza left to form his own company, and Astra-Unceta y Cia became Unceta y Compania. The tubular design certainly stands out among the squarish 1911s, Hi-Powers, and revolvers of the day. What is the Value of your Astra Pistols? Just as with the 400, there are two types of the Model I think that many of the WaAD20 Astras must have ended up as allied war souvenirs, but apparently some did not, and ended up being reused. Model 600s to the mid 15,000 serial number range were stamped with the Astra U/C logo on the top forward portion of the slide, and the rear slides were marked UNCETA Y COMPAIA S.A., There are a multitude of minor variations of the Model 400, with many different proof and acceptance stamps--for details on these please refer to Mr. Antaris book Astra Automatic Pistols. Smith. Beginning in 1929, Type II pistols bear the Astra U/C logo atop the slide and are marked UNCETA Y COMPAIA S.A., GUERNICA ESPAA. Copyright 2008 by Ed Buffaloe. Spain was ostensibly neutral in World War II, but favored the Axis powers. It's a very nicely made gun with some interesting . Some Second Contract Astra 600s carry only original factory markings, while others have more extensive additional numbering. As WWII pistols escalated in value, unscrupulous vendors began to fake Nazi markings. However, my Model 300 only has the serial number digits in this location. I always thought they were neat-looking pistols. Unlike the test pistols, the production guns had their slide marked with the Astra U/C logo. The sale of pistols by Spain to Germany for police use occurred in the early 50s, at least 5-6 years later. | The result was the Astra 600/43, basically a model 400 rechambered for 9x19mm. In the 1940s, a failed artist with a stupid mustache decided hed be a real asshole. After the end of the war the Allied occupation forces disarmed the nationalized German Police, broke them down into smaller departments, and then re-armed them. This group of pistols is sometime referred to by collectors as the First Contract.. This pistol was taken off a Dead German officer by my uncle in WWII. external hammer and the elimination of the grip safety. THIRD REICH Proofed Spanish ASTRA Model 600 Semi-Auto 9x19mm GERMAN Pistol 1 of 10,500 WORLD WAR . Not bad for a bottom-mounted magazine release. No waffen acceptance stamps but a wolff spring kit for 11 bucks and a few mags from Numrich and I was off and running. [5] The Astra 600s that could not be delivered to the German government during World War II were then stored by the Spanish government. Most wartime deployed Astras 600s did not see post-war use, and many were GI bring-back trophies. I'm thinking they were brought over sometime in the early 60's? ). Our goal is to encourage collectors by providing honest descriptions, fair prices, and the best customer service. longer than the Model 300, but the barrel length is the same. aznation Member 9,860 Location: Oklahoma City #9 Posted January 6, 2019 The Astra I have is a civilian model, and it originally came with white plastic grips, with the Astra logo. Obviously to me, that pistol served both in WW2 and was used by post war german police. The left side of the frame is marked with several Spanish proofs including the date code "0". According to Dr. Antaris, the Astras were acceptance stamped by the Germans. I understand that serial numbers up to 10500 were delivered to the Germans and WaAD20 accepted on the right tang. Shifting gears back the start of this thread. 1988.Astra 400, a Legacy of Guernica, by Dennis Riordan. The first group of Model 600s (up to serial number 10,500) which Manufacturing of the 600 started in 1943. shape and magazine release of the Model 3000. Numbers match. The .380 magazine is unmarked; the .32 magazine is marked 7.65mm. and fire in it, including the 9mm Steyr, the 9mm Parabellum, the .38 Auto, and even the semi-rimmed 9mm Browning Long. It works beautifully and only costs about $20. Any surplus favorites you are a fan of? Afterward, the company was known as Unceta y Compaia, and the logo was changed to have a U at the top and a C at the bottom. Serial numbers were stamped on frame, slide, and barrel. Ive taken to collecting Astra 600s the past couple of years. All Rights Reserved. Its serial number is in the 35xxx range. loaded chamber indicator. The first 10500 were delivered over a period of a couple of months, putting the last deliveries right on top of the invasion of France. Keep in mind that many Astra pistols have had their grips replaced with unmarked stocks due to age. Grips show minor handling wear and pistol has correct magazine. Depending on when a 600 was made, grips could be either checkered walnut or plastic. Otherwise, the gun is nearly identical to its larger predecessor. The Astra 600 was designated the Pistole Astra 600/43 when used by the German Military during World War II. 2023 - WorthPoint Corporation | 5 Concourse Parkway NE, Suite 2900. In 1943 the German government requested Unceta y Cia redesign the Astra 400 to fire the 919mm Parabellum cartridge. Looking to possibly sell for right price. The Astra 600, for example, is one of the best surplus handguns you can still get for a reasonable price. A fixed barrel certainly has its advantages. Ejecting the magazine is interesting. We know from a number of LBPN sub serial number 10500 marked Astra 600s that post-war German police forces didnt seem to mind using WaAD20 marked Astras. Germany ordered 50,000 of these guns, but only 10,500 got delivered. The Nazi Wehrmacht needed more pistols. I Have This Old Gun: Astra Model 300 www.americanrifleman.com. I doubt that a mix up occurred while the property of the German police. The Model 400 was rust blued (as were all Astra pistols up to 1957). Our example has no such markings. Paid a little more than I wanted but well within its value so I'm happy. The Astra trigger pull was a bit long, somewhat creepy, and somewhat heavy. The new Dr. Antaris book also has some specifics on the importation of M1921s (400). SIGforum.com Main Page SIG Pistols I inherited my uncle Bill's Astra 600. The post-war numbered parts beyond what was done in the Astra factory is somewhat unique and presumably done by the LBPN. Clip vs. Magazine: Whatsthe difference? Later Model 600 pistols did not have the Astra logo at all, and were marked on the rear of the slide What is the likely scenario for multiple WaAD20 marked Astra 600s to also find their way into use post-war and also get LBPN marked. Always wondered how it got to the states? Handgun Manufacturer Detail Astra www.genitron.com. From that moment until late 1944, Astras primary interest was to fill these requisitions. the total Model 300 production was sold to the German military during World War II--85,390 pistols (63,000 in .380 and 22,390 in .32). (some coarsely checked and some finely checked) with no logo. Now if you find one with a serial number below 10,500, that was a Nazi issue piece. This is very rear pistol in good condition. Some .380 barrels are marked 9m/m Kurz, while some are marked 9m/m & 380. SS1908-137 . Serial Number: 33861. It will deactivate automatically when the slide is manually cycled. Give a Gift Gun #: 997900301. [7] Pistols sold to the Portuguese Navy were marked with the abbreviation "MRP" on the upper left part of the slide. The bomb with the P is the Eibar proof for semiautomatic pistols. It was later struck with fraudulent Nazi police proofs on the right tang and left trigger guard web. Maybe the simplest answer is the most likely; someone built an Astra from otherwise unserviceable parts. 600/43. part I, Firearms and edged Weapons, a New York collection, part II, Rare old Pistols and Guns. It is clear and well documented how the serial numbers. Well, most of them are still reasonable. Mine is a 24000 block of number so not an issued number. It seems that the post-war German Police marked the frame/slide serial number or a sub-portion of it on the magazines, barrel bushing, and the barrel bushing lock, beyond what the Spanish did during original manufacture. Approximately 59,400 Astra 600s were manufactured before production ceased. Chris Johnson, FN Senior Product Manager, walks us through two new FN striker-fired pistols at SHOT Show 2023: the FN 510 Tactical, chambered in 10mm Auto, and the FN 545 Tactical, chambered in .45 ACP. The .32s are Astra designed the Model 600 (43) to satisfy the German request. The proofs are correct for auto pistols. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Due to their scarcity and Nazi history, these guns will go for anywhere from $700-$1,000, depending on condition. Astra M600 Nazi Range pistols currently available from Historic Investments: No products were found matching your selection. MODELO 1921 (400). [4] Approximately 50,000 were ordered by Germany, with the first delivery of 2,950 pistols taking place on 16 May 1944. The "O" means 1944 manufacture. I regret that now. A straight blowback system also creates excessive recoil, and the Astra 600 is no different. Growing up in the 60s, I remember them on TV shows being used by spies and villains. The leather is crisp and clean, with an interior maker stamp and waffen proof stamp embossed in the leather. after 1968 the gun could no longer be imported. In 2008, a Swiss firearms maker located in the city of Sion adopted the name Astra Arms S.A. and took over the rights to the Astra trademark. I mention the import marks because they are the C.A.I. providing a loaded chamber indicator pin beneath the removable rear sight. Chambered for the 9mm Largo, this gun was based on the Campo-Giro with its tubular slide moving in frame grooves and blowback action, but had an internal Gangarosa suggests that the Model 600s may have been even better finished than other Astras in an effort to please the Germans who were accustomed to a very high standard of manufacture. The Astra 600, a slightly shorter and lighter version of the Astra 400 that is chambered in 9mm Luger, [6] was later developed for export sales, primarily to Nazi Germany. Basically, the Nazis liked the design of the Astra 400, but wanted the pistol in 9mm Parabellum. The numbered magazine, barrel bushing and barrel bushing lock were numbered post-war, presumably by the LBPN armorer. 12 Image (s) Astra Regent Cadix clone Kimel .32 S&W Long 7 Shot model 5000 Guardian Snubnose 2 inch Revolver . PA 19301. Given the sale of undelivered Astra to the German Police, I would not expect to see WaAD20 pistols also LBPN marked. . When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Pictures would sure help in a question like this. They also shipped larged quantities of 9mm Largo ammunition with the pistols. Tools . Somehow, someway, one made it to my hands in the swamps of Florida. Models were made to chamber both the 9MM Luger cartridge and the .32 ACP. The safety lever was moved to the tang behind the left grip plate. Once WWII was over, the undelivered pistols were forwarded to the Spanish government. I believe I now understand the likely scenario that would result in a WaAD20 marked Astra 600 also carrying an LBPN marking. The Astra 600 - Old School Cool . A lot of mod. Mission Impossible (the TV Series) made the Astra guns a bad-guy favorite. I'll get back to that. It was The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Over the next two months, Astra exported an additional 10,450 guns to the German Armed Forces in occupied Hendaye, France. They wrapped a robust spring around the fixed barrel design. $50.00 Out of stock SKU: OA-RF-H-049Categories: 24 Hour Gun Show, Holsters & Leather, Military Surplus & MilitariaTag: Geco Astra 600 Holster Remember: Parts may require fitting by a trained gunsmith.
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