Cedric Bassett POPKIN married Nellie Ellen BULL and had 1 child. However, consider the situation. His face, particularly peaceful, had an expression of gentleness and goodness, of refinement. 30756, at Page 7304, Column 2. WebWe found 4 dictionaries with English definitions that include the word Popkin: Click on the first link on a line below to go directly to a page where "Popkin" is defined. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. Cedric received a severe gunshot wound to his right leg on 19 June and was moved to 4th Field Ambulance. We collect and match historical records that Ancestry users have contributed to their family trees to create each persons profile. 1 gunner and proceeded to where the Plane fell. We said 'yes.' "In our view and final analysis, the best candidate for bringing down von Richthofen was Cedric Popkin, Australian Sergeant machine gunner," Norman Franks told NOVA. However, most sources attribute Popkin, Sgt. Home; About; Products; sucesos de las islas filipinas was written by 1 gunner and proceeded to where the Plane fell. The family moved to Palmwoods in Queensland before the outbreak of WW13. With a feeling of shame, a kind of anger against myself moved in my thoughts, that I had forced him to lay there. WebApril 21, 1918: Manfred Von Richthofen, the famous Red Baron, was shot down and killed by Australian antiaircraft gunner Sgt. C.B. On 25 March 1916 Cedric's father Dan died at Lismore NSW and his younger brother Roland, then living in Wales, enlisted in the British Army. Porizkova had been 209 Squadron, Royal Air Force, when he was attacked by a second Sopwith Camel BR, number B 7270, piloted by Captain Arthur Roy Brown, D.S.C., Mays commanding officer. WebAustralia portal; Cedric Popkin is within the scope of WikiProject Australia, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Australia and Australia-related topics.If you would like to Cedric Popkin died in 1968 at Tweed Heads NSW. Because of the type of weapons that where involved, we can say that it was probably a Vickers MG that fired the shot. I immediately got my gun into action and waited for our own plane to pass me, as the planes were close together, and there was a risk of hitting both. Live Healthy !!!! (iv), Nearly fifty years later, Popkin was less sure about events of 21st April and perhaps had forgotten his report to his unit commander. Capt.) He was initially taken to the 4th Australian Field Ambulance located at The Chateau, Les Alencons, France. Phone: 02 6670 2493 The 24th Machine Gun Company War Diary for April 1918 includes a statement by Sgt Popkin: "I was the Sergeant in charge of a Machine Gun detachment at J 19 d. Richthofen was hit by a 0.303 calibre bullet which passed diagonally from right to left through his chest; he also said to have sustained wounds in the knees and abdomen. On his return home Cedric and his family returned to the Tweed area and by 1930 he had taken up the position of Postmaster at Tyalgum, near Murwillumbah. Description: The Australian website dedicated to researching WW1 Diggers and nurses who came from or were associated Nellie remained with the children at Palmwoods until Cedric returned, quite a different man from the one who left. The Baron was hit by a 0.303 calibre bullet which passed diagonally from right to left through his chest. He recalls delivering a message to a gunner at the 11th Battalion, who opened fire on Richthofen's plane and claims to have seen the bullets pierce the cockpit. M.G.Coy for April 1918, AWM4 24/24/8. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. I handed my gun over to the No. "If the bullet had struck von Richthofen at close range, I would have expected a more explosive type wound," Peter Franks, a ballistics expert, told NOVA . "Now the evidence is that the wounds were actually probed by the medical staff after he had been shot down and they were actually able to follow the bullet path through the body. All rights reserved. The machine swerved, attempted to bank and make for the ground and immediately crashed. Hall, Peter. WebCedric Bassett Popkin was born in Sydney in 1890 to William (Dan) Bassett and Lilian Martha Popkin (nee Gilbert) 1. The Australians always felt Sgt. These were made by two different Australian antiaircraft crews who were stationed on the Morlancourt Ridge. An account by Lieut. historians" Von Richthofen was given the name Red Baron due to his blood-coloured plane, and was one of the most feared aviators of World War One. We are talking about a "dog-fight". Sergeant Cedric Popkin is second from right in middle row.In the foreground are two Vickers machine guns on tripods. Cedric Popkin died in 1968 at Tweed Heads NSW. The plane the Baron was pursuing was piloted by Canadian, Lieutenant Wilfrid May and the Baron was in turn being chased by another Canadian pilot, Captain Roy Brown. Topics: world-war-1, history, air-force, lismore-2480, france, fingal-head-2487, tyalgum-2484. Cedric's company was based at Camiers in France, the base depot for the Machine Gun Corps where he attended training school. His mother is the former Mitzi Jurkowitz, formerly of this city. The Pilot (whom I was subsequently told was Captain Baron Von Richthoven [sic], I saw had at least three machine gun bullets through his body, one in his ribs at the side, and a couple through his chest, and I consider he died as a result of these wounds from the time he was hit till he hit the ground, a matter of 2 or 3 seconds. He said, 'There's your man'.". The next day Cedric was at the 47th Casualty Clearing Station before being moved to the 3rd Australian General Hospital. In January 1917, he had his airplane, an Albatross D.III, painted bright red. Arthur Roy Brown, D.S.C., R.A.F. He said, 'There's your man.13. By 1904 the family was living in Grafton and Cedrics two older sisters were looking after the family as their mother Gladys had died in 19022. "TOWN PLANS TO HONOUR AUSSIE CREDITED WITH BRINGING DOWN THE RED BARON Courier Mail Edition]." His troubled youth behind him, by 1908 Cedric was working as a builder at Mullumbimby in northern NSW. Cedric's sister Edith Sophia lived with them for a short time around 1958 and they remained at Fingal Head until at least 1963. He then made a hasty but controlled landing, in a field on a hill near the Bray-Corbie road, just north of Vaux-sur-Somme. On the following day he was moved to the 47th Casualty Clearing Station at Roziere and then on the 24th moved again to the 3rd Australian General Hospital, Abbeville in the Somme area. The distance from the spot where the Plane crashed and my gun was about 600 yards. Norman Franks, an author and aviation historian, told NOVA. In his official report he wrote: . Armed with a Vickers machine gun, he had fired twice on the plane as it flew overhead, the second time at the same angle as the bullet entered von Richthofens body. Cheers.InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 16:47, 1 August 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]. 'Red Baron' Photos courtesy of John Nichols. I gnashed my teeth, I cursed the war. (Sgd.) Norman Franks, an author and aviation historian, told NOVA. Many researchers have come to the conclusion that Sergeant Cedric Bassett Popkin, 24th Australian Machine Gun Company, 4th Division, Australian Imperial Force, fired the burst of gunfire that struck the Baron. Five years later Cedric was living alone at Irving Street, Torwood in Brisbane and working as a carpenter when he met and married Nellie Ellen Bull on 10 March 1913. To receive a Bar to the Distinguished Service Cross. 424 Sgt Popkin, C.B., AIF War Diary of the 24th Australian Machine Gun Company for April 1918. Cedric Bassett Popkin died on the Tweed in 1968. WebHis father, who had an address on the North Shore of Sydney, was recorded as his next of kin. Sgt Popkin 2nd from right middle row. Cedric received a severe gunshot wound to his right leg on 19 June and was moved to 4th Field Ambulance. "Fragments flew from the plane and it lessened speed. Suddenly I felt miserable, desperately unhappy, as if I had committed an injustice. It is now considered all but certain by historians, doctors, and ballistics experts that von Richthofen was killed by an AA machine gunner firing from the ground, for a number of reasons. The next day Cedric was at the 47th Casualty Clearing Station before being moved to the 3rd Australian General Hospital. The machine swerved, attempted to bank and make for the ground and immediately crashed. Blond, silk-soft hair, like that of a child, fell from the broad high forehead. WebCedric Bassett POPKIN 1890-1968 - Ancestry. The Foker Tri-plane was rolling, pitching, yawing, climbing, and diving. Cedric has been married to his wife, Lorna Wells, for over 20 years. WebName: Cedric B Popkin Birth Date: 1890 Birth Place: New South Wales Registration Year: 1890 Registration Place: St Leonards, New South Wales, Australia Father: Dan W B Popkin On 20 June 1890 Cedric Bassett Popkin was born , followed by Dorothy in 1892 (in Queanbeyan NSW) and another boy Roland G in 1894 at Marrickville in Sydney. "I started firing at the body of the German pilot directly through my peep sight," Buie wrote. WebHis father was Major Albrecht Phillip Karl Julius Freiherr von Richthofen and his mother was Kunigunde von Schickfuss und Neudorff. This page was last modified 23:46, 29 March 2019. On 21st April, 1918, while leading a patrol of 6 scouts he attacked a formation of 20 hostile scouts. "The fact that the bullet was found intact inside the clothing of Richthofen is another indicator that it was a long-range shot," Franks told NOVA, "and I would say that would be probably 600 yards plus. C.B. He remained in hospital for two months before being discharged to the 2nd Auxiliary Hospital, Southall on 3 September 1918. [ 1 ] [ 2 ] Popkin was an anti-aircraft (AA) machine gunner with the First Australian Imperial Force (AIF), during World War I . Popkin was an anti-aircraft machine gunner in the 24th Machine Gun Company, part of the Australian 4th Division, stationed in the Somme Valley, France. On 5 January 1919 Cedric was invalided back to Australia on the H.T. Cedric and Nellie had two sons, Roland and Michael, and the family moved to Palmwoods in Queensland before the outbreak of WW1. 26 stycznia 1968 w ) australijski onierz walczcy podczas I wojny wiatowej, ktry najprawdopodobniej zabi Youll get hints when we find information about your relatives . By Martin Bowman Pen and Sword, Jun 26, 2014, By Peter Kilduff F+W Media, Inc., Apr 1, 2012 ISBN-13: 9780715333815, The Song of the RoseBy Colin Brown May 28, 2014ISBN-13: 978-1783064359, Australia, WWI Service Records, 1914-1920Name: Cedric Bassett PopkinGender: MaleAge: 25Birth Year: abt 1889Birth Place: Sydney, New South WalesDossier Year Range: 1914-1920Enlistment Place: Brisbane, QueenslandService Number: 424Spouse: Nellie PopkinSource CitationNational Archives of Australia; Canberra, Australian Capital Territory, Australia; B2455, First Australian Imperial Force Personnel Dossiers, 1914-1920. "He said, 'Have you got somebody who knows what they're doing, 600 yards away, and he's firing at von Richthofen's right side?' If you would like to view one of these trees in its entirety, you can contact the owner of the tree to request permission to see the tree. As shown on PBS's NOVA, the medical reports showed von Richthofen was hit by an upward shot to the right side. Cedric enlisted in the AIF on 6 May 1916 and did not see his family again for three long hard years. AWM E01716 Group portrait of officers and NCOs of 24th Machine Gun Company date 8 March 1918 in France. Many have claimed credit since that fateful day and all have their detractors and supporters. These were made by two different Australian antiaircraft crews who were stationed on the Morlancourt Ridge. The most famous flying ace of World War One, Cavalry Captain Baron Manfred von Richthofen (The Red Baron), was shot down and killed on 21 April 1918 near Vaux-sur-Seine in an Australian-held sector of the Allied line. Despite his enemy status, von Richthofen was so highly respected that the Allies buried him with full military honors alongside their own dead. Despite this, the attending surgeons at Richthofen's autopsy were of the opinion that the angle and nature of the bullet wounds ruled out the possibility that he had been shot from the ground, and that the injuries were due to the efforts of a Canadian pilot Roy Brown. In April 1917 Cedric committed his only military offence and was reprimanded for using insulting language to a Non-Commissioned Officer (N.C.O.) Private Alfred Fowler, with the 40th Australian Battalion, witnessed the Red Baron's death. The machine swerved attempted to bank and make for the ground and immediately crashed. ", In an email to ScienCentral, Franks went into more detail. In his Official History, war historian Charles Bean suggests that it was probably Cedric Popkin who killed the Red Baron. WebCedric Bassett POPKINmarried Nellie Ellen BULLandhad 1child. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. His Fokker was not damaged by the landing. These facts, and the angle at which the bullet passed through Richthofen's body, suggest that he was killed by a long-distance, low velocity shot from a ground-based weapon. [1][2], He managed African American movie theaters in Los Angeles. Despite this, the attending surgeons at Richthofen's autopsy were of the opinion that the angle and nature of the bullet wounds ruled out the possibility that he had been shot from the ground, and that the injuries were due to the efforts of a Canadian pilot Roy Brown. And in my heart I cursed the force that is devoted to death. At about 10.35am on 21 April, Baron von Richthofen, flying his red Fokker DR-1, engaged Sopwith Camels from 209 Squadron, RAF. AWM No. "Because of the nature of the ammunition and how it performs within body tissue, we can determine in these circumstances at what approximate range the shot was fired. I am quite satisfied that the Plane was brought down as the result of the fire from my gun. These trees can change over time as users edit, remove, or otherwise modify the data in their trees. Cedric Bassett Popkin (Born 20 June 1890, died 26 January 1968) is considered the person most likely to have killed German ace Manfred von Richthofen also known as the Red Baron on 21 April 1918. "I started firing at the body of the German pilot directly through my peep sight," Buie wrote. ", In an email to ScienCentral, Franks went into more detail. You can contact the owner of the tree to get more information. Popkin was an experienced AA gunner, the volume of fire from the Vickers was far greater (at least 450 rounds per minute) than the bolt-action Lee-Enfield rifles (up to 30 He died in France, aged 24, on 27 Sept 1918. He bled freely after he hit the ground from the wounds in his chest. Despite some rest and treatment, Cedric's wound was not healing so he was transported to England on 4 July on HSS Andrew. He appeared so small to me, so delicate. I went away. ", "So we asked our gun expert, what do we need to look at?" Following their marriage in Queensland and birth of their first daughter Gladys Lilian, Dan William Bassett Popkin and his wife Lilian moved to St Leonards in Sydney where a daughter Sophia Edith was born in 1887 quickly followed by Marjory in 1888 . 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